When Is It OK For An Athlete To Beat Up A Fan?
Written by wrigleyville   
Friday, 12 March 2010
Morgan Ensberg #14

What is the protocol for a baseball player when something like this happens, via Morgan Ensberg's blog:

I was in right field shagging balls during BP in 2007. I loved talking to the fans in the bleachers. In fact, I felt so comfortable with them that a guy asked to see my glove so I tossed it to him. He looked at it and threw it back down, no problem. Back to the story…

I was talking to a group of 7 and they started ragging me, but I got them to laugh and the conversation quickly turned into a Q & A session. After 15 min I told them I had to hit. When I turned my back I heard a guy spit and felt phlegm hit my left temple.

As I jogged into the dugout my eyes were watering up. I took 3 or 4 deep breaths and regained my composure. It took me over an hour to stop feeling humiliated. Someone just spit on me because he thought it would be funny and instead it burned a memory into my heart that I will never forget.

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So when Milton says that he was called a “derogatory comment”. I believe him. When he says his family was threatened, I believe him. Every fan isn’t a racist, just like every fan doesn’t spit on players. But based on my experience at Wrigley, I believe him.

Ensberg obviously handled it correctly, both professionally and as a person. Walk away.

That said, who among us would?

(Point of order: I would, but that's only because I'm not very strong, tire quite easily and haven't beaten anybody up since middle school.)

But why should Morgan Ensberg, Ron Artest or Chad Kreuter simply grin and bear it? Why should anyone - no matter how much they make or what they do - be forced to endure battery (and that's what each of these were) at their workplace?

Actions have consequences, especially when you assault someone who is much bigger than you - even if you're convinced you have immunity (and you're bulletproof) because you spent $59 on a ticket, $99 on a replica Ryan Theriot Road Jersey and $43 on Old Style.

Perhaps allowing, say, Marlon Byrd to go into the stands early in the year and beat up 17 people would have a deterrent effect on the jackassery that goes on out there. I, for one, would think twice about heckling someone if I knew baseball would let them come up and beat the crap out of me between innings.

Back to Wrigley-centric reactions, the knee-jerk defense by Cubs fans - and parochial columnists - would be:

1. I've never seen anything like this so it must not be true.

2. It happens everywhere.

3. It's an isolated incident.

4. Morgan Ensburg sucks!!!!1!!eleven!

Feel free to react that way. Feel free to dismiss these as isolated incidents. But there have been enough visible events (the Dodgers fight, the dumping of beer on Shane Victorino, the threatening of Steve Bartman and so on) and alleged incidents (Jacque Jones, Bradley, LaTroy Hawkins, Dusty Baker) that perception will soon become reality. If it hasn't already.

P.S. The strangest thing about the Kreuter game wasn't that Cubs fans and the Dodgers bullpen got into a brawl. It was that Todd Hundley hit a game-winning home run. And Gary Sheffield was trying to play peacemaker. And that just three fans were fined $100 and cited for disorderly conduct. And no security showed up.



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written by mb211, March 12, 2010
When is it ok? It's probably never ok to beat the fan up, but that's because I don't really think it's ever ok to do that. However, when would that kind of response be appropriate? If you're spit on, responding by kicking someone's ass would be fairly typical. The fan who did that or does it in the future should keep that in mind, but as you said, they feel they have immunity.
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written by wv, March 12, 2010
i added this paragraph:

Perhaps allowing, say, Marlon Byrd go into the stands early in the year and beat up 17 people would have a deterrent effect on the jackassery that goes on out there. I, for one, would think twice about heckling someone if I knew baseball would let them come up and beat the crap out of me between innings.

now that would make baseball games more exciting!
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written by Aisle 424, March 12, 2010
Why didn't he have security throw them out? It isn't like he didn't have any evidence. It was dripping down his face.

I understand the inclination not to go and run to tell on someone like a child, but he said he went and almost cried about it, so obviously, he doesn't care what people think or he wouldn't have written that.

Security at ballparks is a fucking joke. Anytime you have players interacting with the fans, there needs to be someone nearby, both to protect and to witness events they can't possibly prevent, like spitting.

Players are multi-million dollar assets to these teams and they are protected by people that might otherwise be flipping burgers for a living. There is either no training on recognizing situations or it isn't sinking in. Either way, I'm amazed an athlete hasn't been killed by a fan yet. I really am.
I see your point, Aisle424, but...
written by MercurialOutfielder, March 12, 2010
my feeling is that people shouldn't need a security guard there to enforce common human respect. And the Cubs would never do that anyway, since doing so would be tantamount to an admission that the bleacher culture they have actively fostered since 1998 has become a monster they can no longer control and which now places the players in harm's way every time they take the field. They'll never make that admission.
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written by Brad at Cubs Stats, March 12, 2010
Props of Ensberg for acting the way he did. I, however, wish a player would finally take a baseball bat to the head of the dumber Cubs fans out there. I think we already have enough smart fans, so let's get rid of the dumb ones.

Maybe we should have Byrd thrash of few idiots in the stands or maybe do batting practice with a battle-ax, just to remind hecklers how pathetic and weak they are.
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written by *IAN, March 14, 2010
In any arena, be it the streets or at the workplace, if someone spits in your face you have every right to knock their block off. I'm not calling Morgan a puss, I'm merely saying he's a better man than I.
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written by *IAN, March 14, 2010
By the way, when are we going to get over Milton Bradley? Can we just move on?

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